Really hard to start when cold

[Ghettodsm]

When the engine is cold it takes several several tries before it will fire. I have removed the entire emissions system including the fiav. I'm guessing without the fiav it should take a couple tries but not 5 minutes or more? Thanks all.

[mpdeneen]

When the engine is cold it takes several several tries before it will fire. I have removed the entire emissions system including the fiav. I'm guessing without the fiav it should take a couple tries but not 5 minutes or more? Thanks all.

How old is your coolant temp sensor? Mine went out and they're impossible to start...

At least 1G's are. What are you running again?

[drcustom]

How old is your coolant temp sensor? Mine went out and they're impossible to start...

At least 1G's are. What are you running again?

2g's are the same way, and I agree that sounds like the problem.

Unplug your temp sensor and try to start it cold - they'll usually start up that way, but then will run rough once they warm up (so you can plug the sensor back in if you need to drive it).

I haven't been able to get the sensor from anyone besides the dealer...even they screw it up sometimes. It's the one with the two prong plug on the thermostat housing - black on 2g's, white on 1g's.

[mpdeneen]

2g's are the same way, and I agree that sounds like the problem.

Unplug your temp sensor and try to start it cold - they'll usually start up that way, but then will run rough once they warm up (so you can plug the sensor back in if you need to drive it).

I haven't been able to get the sensor from anyone besides the dealer...even they screw it up sometimes. It's the one with the two prong plug on the thermostat housing - black on 2g's, white on 1g's.

I've picked up 1G CTS at Advance, I think. Maybe autozone. Works well enough.

[Ghettodsm]

just put a new one on(got it from ipw for 25 bucks). It started on the 3rd try, i did have the vehicle running this morning though. I'll have to try it tomorrow morning when it is cold outside. Now i have connected the 2 wires with spade connectors onto the sensor, my plug snapped off(frail old wiring FTL!!!) is there a certain way these need to be connected? One looks to be a ground wire as its bigger and has some white dashes on it.

[drcustom]

is there a certain way these need to be connected? One looks to be a ground wire as its bigger and has some white dashes on it.

The plugs break all the time. It's possible to fix them (but takes a few minutes of 'tiny work').

I'm actually not sure if it matters...I've always tried to keep them the same, but I'd guess it's just a resistor.

I can't get the correct 2g sensors from anywhere but the dealers...I tried a bunch of times and everywhere I went they would keep giving me the wrong sensors.

Could you post the 1g part number for the one you found?

[Ghettodsm]

yeah well he actually pulled one for a 2g originally on accident. When he pulled one for a 1g it looked exactly the same. Both of them where also black and didn't have any special markings but apparently a different part number so I'm guessing the reading is internally different. I'll see if I can find the box(to post the number) but I think i already tossed it. I car pooled this morning so I didn't get to test out the talon to see if fixed the problem. I hopefully will be able to once I get off work today though.

[1gcrazy]

yeah well he actually pulled one for a 2g originally on accident. When he pulled one for a 1g it looked exactly the same. Both of them where also black and didn't have any special markings but apparently a different part number so I'm guessing the reading is internally different. I'll see if I can find the box(to post the number) but I think i already tossed it. I car pooled this morning so I didn't get to test out the talon to see if fixed the problem. I hopefully will be able to once I get off work today though.

Did this fix the problem?