Crower cams back in stock

[thiazole]

I'm guessing Brian Crower cams are probably back in stock too. The 272s have been on back order forever. I noticed that the Crower website didn't show the 272s on back order and they are much cheaper from their website than from a middle man (only $350 for a set), so I decided to try my luck and spend $25 more (than for Brian Crower's) for a chance of being in stock. They were on back order, but just came off. I just got an e-mail that they shipped out!

[99mitsuspyder]

A few places still had them, just hard as heck to find!!

[Cloud]

FYI crower cams are not the same thing as the brian crower cams, so the topic is a little misleading ;) Let me know how the low end feels when you get them in. I have been wanting a bit more top end on the stroker, but it's obvious how much I like my low end since I have a cyclone and e316g on the car.

[thiazole]

Brian Crower, Inc. is just a subsidiary of Crower Cams aimed at the sport compact crowd. Admittedly, when you look at the specs they aren't exactly the same but it seems strange that the same company would make two slightly different sets of the same cams for the same engines.

[thiazole]

Interestingly, I just looked at the BC website and they are showing that they are still out of stock.

[Cloud]

'Brian Crower' cams are an interesting offshoot. They are friggin cheap as hell and arguably just as good as the hks from everything I have read. It was a good call on the part of whoever made it. I was going to ask for a set for christmas but I decided it would be impossible for anyone to find them and they are still a decent chunk of change for a christmas gift :p

[jaysmirage]

I got mine through extremepsi.com they had all of them in stock if i am not mistaking

[thiazole]

'Brian Crower' cams are an interesting offshoot. They are friggin cheap as hell and arguably just as good as the hks from everything I have read. It was a good call on the part of whoever made it. I was going to ask for a set for christmas but I decided it would be impossible for anyone to find them and they are still a decent chunk of change for a christmas gift :p

Crower's are pretty cheap too, if you go through their website, but not if you go through a distributor. I think $350 for a set of Crowers is pretty good, especially when the BCs are out of stock. I guess BC isn't necessarilly a part of Crower, but a maybe just a company in the same family (owned by the son of the owner of Crower) with the "blessings" of Crower. Here is an excerpt fromt he BC website (bolding is my doing):

"Brian Crower grew up at Crower Cams & Equipment Company, where he headed up the Crower Sport Compact division since its inception. With Crower Cams heavily focused on the V8 market, Brian saw an opportunity to truly support the needs of the Sport Compact community. With the support of his family, Brian Crower Inc. was formed to deliver the highest quality internal engine components for a variety of popular engine platforms."

I've also seen on some other forums where some people made the lateral change from a HKS cams to BC or to Crower (yeah, I know that seems to make no sense, but I suppose if a person had to tear his car apart anyway, he could sell the used HKS cams for $400 and buy new BCs and have money left in the pocket) and said the HKS cams were the worst performing of the bunch. Of course, we all know on 10 different setups, a person could get 10 completely different results, but it seems they are at least as good as HKS cams.

[thiazole]

I was trying to find the physical location of Brian Crower, Inc. and I just can't find any information. Both Crower and BC are located in San Diego. Crower lists a physical address, "6180 Business Center Ct.". BC only gives a P.O. Box. Surely they have a physical residence. I just can't help but to wonder if it isn't in the same location as Crower. It would make the startup of BC much easier if he can use all of dad's equipment to grind his parts. I suppose in order to attract people who are rebels against old school muscle, there might be some desire to pretend they are separate entities even if they are completely the same company. There is an attraction to an American company that focuses only on the sport compact crowd. I personally don't care. I'm a convert from old school muscle mainly because it is much easier to build a good daily driver street car from a DSM than from a 69 Camaro (my favorite 60's muscle car), not because I have a chip on my shoulder. Someday, when I really feel like I know what I'm doing, I'd like to take a 6 cylinder 69 Camaro and build a turbo 4.3L (think Cyclone engine) for it. That would probably be my ideal car - the best of two worlds. Maybe by then, there will be a good DOHC 6 cylinder Chevy engine that I can use instead of the 4.3L.

[Cloud]

Good gm 6 cylinder? grand national ftw! I think we are putting a grand national powerplant in my friends van in the next year or so... possibly the cobra 8.8 IRS as well lol. Should be the best sleeper ever except for the enormous tires ;)

[thiazole]

I had a 98 Regal GS that got rear ended and totalled a few months ago. I was tempted to keep the car and put that engine in something else. I'm not sure the 3.8L from the GS is as built as strong internally as it was in the GN. I'm just not ready to do something like that yet. You're probably right, though. If for no other reason, there are tons of very good performance parts available for the 3.8L and lots of people have built them to make huge HP.