TD-05 14b

[BlueVelocity]

Well, the time has come, the 15G's aren't going to cut it anymore. I'm going to make a custom set of manifolds and O2's. I plan on running the Evo III 16G's but need a set of 14b's to mock up with. (going from a td04 to a td05) Anyone have one they would get rid of? I'm talking about an, "i've been meaning to throw it away" type of turbo. Need not be functional but if it is, great.

Thanks!

Erron S.
(can you feel me getting faster?)

[Josh Warriner]

Didn't you have 20Gs?

[Zeppelin]

Hey Erron,

I've got a 14b in my garage with a bad exhaust housing. You can use it for mockup if you'd like.

[Scott Y]

You might give Jack M a call, I remember seeing a Vr-4 with twin EVOs at his shop last summer.

[BlueVelocity]

Didn't you have 20Gs?

No sir, you are thinking of Mr. Pete P. Soon after that mod, that car was sold to a guy in canada.

Hey, did you ever do those floorboards in the Porsche?

Erron S.

[BlueVelocity]

You might give Jack M a call, I remember seeing a Vr-4 with twin EVOs at his shop last summer.

Really? Cool.

Erron S.

[JackM]

Yeah, the EVO III 16G pair worked out pretty well. He is running an AEM, and I think it's a little out of tune (I'm not touching that thing), so they don't do too great in 1st, but 2nd and up is pretty nice. The only problem is his tranny. It makes a gear noise that I can't figure out! I think it's the damn MR gears... If I had to do the EVO IIIs over again, I would have welded ears on the aluminum comp housings for the actuators instead of making steel brackets on the OEM ears.

I also just finished adapting OEM Eclipse 14B style units to a 95 3S the other day. On those, I welded the aluminum ears for the actuators on the comp housings. Came out pretty clean and I am much happier with that set-up. Has great top end and the turbos spool up real well. Only running 7PSI though, because he hasn't done anything to his engine man or fuel system.

Erron, are you going to sell those 15Gs? If so, I have a customer interested in them. Are they TD04H turbines? Thanks!

Jack

[DSMtuned]

Well, the time has come, the 15G's aren't going to cut it anymore. I'm going to make a custom set of manifolds and O2's. I plan on running the Evo III 16G's but need a set of 14b's to mock up with. (going from a td04 to a td05) Anyone have one they would get rid of? I'm talking about an, "i've been meaning to throw it away" type of turbo. Need not be functional but if it is, great.

Thanks!

Erron S.
(can you feel me getting faster?)

OMG Erron!

That is going to be a peel mobile! No need to turn the steering wheel when you can just drift through all the corners, right?

-Craig

[Kibo]

So is your car going to be more drag racing oriented rather than AutoX or road racing? Makes sense, since there really aren't any local turny-turny tracks any more. Or do you not think you'll lose much in transient response going with the E3 16Gs?

[dsm_gsx97]

So is your car going to be more drag racing oriented rather than AutoX or road racing? Makes sense, since there really aren't any local turny-turny tracks any more. Or do you not think you'll lose much in transient response going with the E3 16Gs?

I'll let him tell the secret, but yes he is going with a more drag type car for now, and he hasn't gotten and 16G's yet. I'm sure he's got pretty little pics of everything he just did with the new manifolds and stuff. I've been IMing him today but he's ignoring me.

[Kibo]

Well, he'll definitely need some power to get that tank really moving down the track. At least he has the brakes to stop it! :D

[BlueVelocity]

LOL! I go to a meeting for an hour and everyone tries to find me!

I've just installed a new set of tubular manifolds and an 02 housing that took some modding. (like 4 wedges and 9 pieces) Since i've recently seen some deep 11's and even a couple of tens from other 3si club members with the 15G's, I have a new found respect for them. I'm really curious what I can do with the 15's now especially with the new manifolds and 4" exhaust. Since the car is still in it's road racing tune, ie RICH, there's bound to be more power in there somewhere and i'm gonna find it. I'm thinking i'll go to the June 11th event and try to tune out some gas and see if an 11 is in 'er. (hope so) At that point, i'm going to make the decision whether or not to make the 16g jump. If I do, with the new manifolds, it's just a matter of cut and paste the new td05 flanges and water/oil lines. It could get very interesting this summer.

I still have road racing in mind and continue to hope for a new track here in Colorado. That is after all my true passion. I've been in Pete's 20G car, and that was just too much lag for any road racing, so if I do it, it will probably be the Evo 3's or small 16's. >shrug<

Jack- I hope that sheds some light on my situation. They aren't quite for sell -yet-, but I will certainly keep you posted. :D

Erron S.

[Kibo]

I've been in Pete's 20G car, and that was just too much lag for any road racing, so if I do it, it will probably be the Evo 3's or small 16's. >shrug<
So was the lag unbearable even when starting from 3-4k? Since nearly all of your time on track is probably spent above 3 or 3.5k, low-end lag shouldn't matter as much. In fact, a gradual spool (rather than light-switch spool) seems like it might be desirable from a traction point of view.

The E3 16Gs are probably still a better choice than 20Gs (cheaper, easy to find, comparable power with smaller size and quicker spool)...but I'm just curious. :)

[BlueVelocity]

So was the lag unbearable even when starting from 3-4k? Since nearly all of your time on track is probably spent above 3 or 3.5k, low-end lag shouldn't matter as much. In fact, a gradual spool (rather than light-switch spool) seems like it might be desirable from a traction point of view.

The E3 16Gs are probably still a better choice than 20Gs (cheaper, easy to find, comparable power with smaller size and quicker spool)...but I'm just curious. :)

Yeah, IIRC, it was a light switch at about 5k with boost starting to build at like 4k. That particular setup was way overkill and would be dangerous on a road track from a traction point of view. I wonder if just the 14b's would enough?

I've heard the evo3's are the way to go for the exact reasons you mentioned.

Erron S.

[Outlaw]

an evo III 16g is as good as a tdo5 20g IMO. the only way to warrant a 20g is to go tdo6.

[BlueVelocity]

an evo III 16g is as good as a tdo5 20g IMO. the only way to warrant a 20g is to go tdo6.

TD-06 is HUGE. Keep in mind I only have 1.5 liters per turbo. :p

Erron S.

[Kibo]

TD-06 is HUGE. Keep in mind I only have 1.5 liters per turbo. :p
Just like a Starlet. :p